RE: 89 405 Mi16 - Starting, Idling, Hesitation Problem HELP!

Alan Borland (Alan.Borland@bj.co.uk)
Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:07:28 +0100

I took off the valve and sprayed carb. cleaner in either end. You'll
notice a lot of black carbon, which after time can restrict the valves
movement. The cleaner removes this carbon. Its a 10 minute job and while
your in that area the its worth cleaning out the breather hoses.

NB. I've just noticed you have a 405 STI, which may not have this
valve!. I not an expert, but I believe only the Motronic Injection
systems on Mi16's have this valve.

Alan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Rodrigues [mailto:steverod@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 1998 11:35 AM
To: Alan Borland; Brian J White; peugeot@padui.org
Subject: RE: 89 405 Mi16 - Starting, Idling, Hesitation Problem HELP!

How do I carry out this cleaning process on my
405? I want to avoid having to call out the RAC!

Cheers,
STEVE

'93 405 2.0 STI 94,000 miles

---Alan Borland <Alan.Borland@bj.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> A few months ago I went through a similar
exercise and ended up
> replacing the plugs, leads, fuel filter, fuel
pump, coil, cap & rotor...
> etc. I then gave up and gave it to a local
garage...
>
> ... the garage then tracked it down to a
partially broken 12v supply
> lead to the idle speed control valve, forcing
the valve to open/close at
> inappropriate times. This valve also needed
cleaning with some carb
> cleaner.
>
> The exercise was expensive, but I certainly
learnt a lot about the car.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Alan.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian J White [mailto:bwhite@thepoint.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 1998 2:56 AM
> To: peugeot@padui.org
> Subject: 89 405 Mi16 - Starting, Idling,
Hesitation Problem HELP!
>
>
> I have an 89 405 Mi16 which has developed some
sort of running problem.
>
> Upon cold start, the engine would start on the
1st or 2nd try, but miss
> and
> such for 20 seconds or so, then surge to
2000rpm and fall back down to
> 1200.....idling "smooth" by what the tach
said, but the exhaust note
> told a
> story of slight missing.
>
> When you first pulled away, the car had no
power, and for the first
> 100ft,
> would hesitate and bog....almost like there
was a lack of fuel. Then it
> was
> fine.
>
> But over the past week or so......it would
take 4 or 5 tries to
> start....each time the car would "start"
instantly, then die immediatly.
> I
> could speed this process up by priming the gas
pedal. (yes..like in a
> carburated car.)
> And...when the car finally did start, and was
idling terribly, a little
> jab
> on the gas pedal would clear it up for 5
seconds or so.
>
> It is fairly smooth running at constant
speed.....but when you abruptly
> change throttle..like floor it or
something....it will hesitate a
> little.....almost like it is bogging down or
something.
>
> If I can at a light, and floor it from a
stop...I get surging all the
> way to
> redline.....One of out 5 or 8 tries will the
car feel like it has full
> power, I will think the problem is solved, but
to know avail.
>
> To try and solve this problem, I have
installed a new air filter, new
> plugs,
> new cap and rotor, new fuel filter, and run a
bottle of Techron
> through.....nothing has helped.
>
> I was thinking of getting new spark plug
wires.....as well..but that is
> not
> what I think this problem is.
>
> This sounds fuel pumpish to me? Anyone else
concur? Anything else? I
> have looked through the archives looking for
this problem...I have seen
> someone cleaning out the emissions equipment,
someone else fixing a
> vacuum
> leak. But I wouldnt think the vacuum leak
would hurt anything at high
> rpm.
> This problem is all the way through the power
band.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Brian
> Seattle, WA
>
>
>
> Brian J White
> bwhite@thepoint.net
>
>
>
>
>

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