Peugeot Re: 505 N9T soft cam

From: Jürgen Roterberg (bagheera@freenet.de)
Date: Sun 20 Oct 2002 - 18:02:41 EDT

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    Depending on the relation to the Chrysler-Simca 160/180/2 Litres and the
    Murena 2.2/Tagora 2.2 the 505 N9T has the same probs as you could see in
    1971:

    An old Simca-dealer from Cologne told me years ago, that he never had
    problems round the engine as long such a car ran as a Taxi and you had
    replace the chassis after 400.ooo km. Very different to the Chrysler that
    ran in hands of "grandfather", where he often had to overhaul the
    cylindre-head or the cam.
    The same appears in compare of the Talbot-Matra Murena 2.2 and the Talbot
    Tagora 2.2 - same engines but a complete different charactre of drivers !
    Although many Murena 2.2 were driven on synthetic-oil with timely made
    oil-changes the owners had this prob with the cam !
    The damages are mainly caused by short rides without the oil is possible to
    get the right temperature. Also often seen is dust in the oil-pump with the
    effect that the oil-circle was interrupted to the cylindre-head.

    A real problem of the future will be the "near" of this N9T to Talbot and
    not to Peugeot. Many engine-parts are gone also at Peugeot Germany since
    longer time with no hope of reproduction :-/.

    If anybody should be in need of a NEW N9T USA-engine - still have one ;-)

    Cheers
    Jürgen www.simcat.net
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Brian Holm" <peugeots@vtlink.net>
    To: "Jim Lill" <jpl@vectorbd.com>; "Peugeot List"
    <peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:41 PM
    Subject: Re: 505 N9T soft cam

    > The worn N9T cams I have seen have apparently been caused by dirty
    > oil. The wear is easily visible on a defective lobe because there are
    > ridges of unworn material on each side of the lobe, where the rocker
    > doesn't contact it.
    >
    > Brian Holm
    >
    > At 01:01 PM 10/20/2002, Jim Lill wrote:
    >
    > >Matt Horne has been advised that his N9T has a soft cam. Has anyone else
    > >ever had this problem with an N9T?
    > >
    > >I dealt with a few of them on 70's SB Chevs.
    > >
    > >One advantage we have on an SOHC engine is that the "offending" and
    > >damaged pices are all visable simply by removing the valve cover.
    > >
    > >It would seem to me that you could remove the rocker arms and check for
    > >damage and with a simpel and cheap dial indicator, check to see if the
    cam
    > >lobes are uniform and/or worn.
    > >
    > >Here's a source of cheap dial indicators that would be good enough for
    the
    > >job...
    > >
    > >http://calaero.zoovy.com/product/DIALINDICATOR01STORE
    > >http://calaero.zoovy.com/product/MAGBASESTORE
    > >
    > >Anybody have any thoughts on my suggested technique?
    > >
    >
    > Brian Holm, Parts for Peugeots
    > at Peugeot Holm, since 1969
    > 2120 Maple Hill
    > Plainfield, VT, 05667
    > 802-454-7132, fax -1310
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